# Built a $50M/yr SaaS Biz (that didn't work out so great), So I'm Building Another One. I'm Rand Fishkin of SparkToro (prev. Moz) AMA

**URL:** https://gorelay.co/t/built-a-50m-yr-saas-biz-that-didnt-work-out-so-great-so-im-building-another-one-im-rand-fishkin-of-sparktoro-prev-moz-ama/494
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**Created:** [October 13, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://gorelay.co/t/built-a-50m-yr-saas-biz-that-didnt-work-out-so-great-so-im-building-another-one-im-rand-fishkin-of-sparktoro-prev-moz-ama/494 "2020-10-13T17:56:01Z")
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### Author: ![Kvivek05](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/gorelay.co/kvivek05/32/94_2.png) [@Kvivek05](https://gorelay.co/u/Kvivek05)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://gorelay.co/t/built-a-50m-yr-saas-biz-that-didnt-work-out-so-great-so-im-building-another-one-im-rand-fishkin-of-sparktoro-prev-moz-ama/494/14 "2020-10-29T17:14:03Z")

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Hi Rand - Been a follower from the days of [SEOMoz.com](http://SEOMoz.com). I am Vivek - Founder at iZooto. We are 4 founders and getting everyone on the same page is a real trick thing. What I loved about your the book and the recent post about your rapport with Sarah is the candidness. It takes a lot to be vulnerable and candid at the same time but this in my experience is a key building block. What can founders do ( or avoid ) to make build a culture that encourages individuals to be both candid and vulnerable.

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